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Re: [CZTR / 32bpp ] - Czech total replacement

Posted: 12 Jul 2022 20:24
by WolfRamXx
Yeah, that would be nice. Hope it will at least stay alive in form of up-to-date updates, maybe few aditions from time to time... But i fully understand the probem with time, hope it will be bringed back soon as full going project though. :bow:

Re: [CZTR / 32bpp ] - Czech total replacement

Posted: 13 Jul 2022 07:09
by stefino_cz
Hi guys,
I have a question for programmers. When I've thinking about our future industry set, I had an idea to make it a little bit different. The idea was to program the base look of the industry with extra objects you can buy and improve your factory. For example. WE have a steel mill. The base look consist of main buildings. Then we can build around this factory accessories like a storage, chimney, iron ore tray, office block etc.. If the player buys these objects, it will increase production, and also the look of factories will be more varied. The question is if it is possible to code with the current NML? I had an idea with nearby_tiles check and then put into the industry code something like "if nearby_tile is XXX, multiply production X times" where XXX is a question. It could be maybe something like object ID. It would be good because each object could have its own multiplier of industry production. Or something different or all the idea is only sci-fi which is impossible to code.

If someone has any idea, would be great!
Thanks, Stefino

Re: [CZTR / 32bpp ] - Czech total replacement

Posted: 20 Jul 2022 15:18
by 2TallTyler
Industries can check the tile class of nearby tiles, but can't know the object ID.

My suggestion would be coding the upgrades as additional industry types which the player can fund nearby. You can use the location_check callback and the industry_distance variable to restrict construction to some distance from the correct parent industry. Production would take place at the parent industry checking the ID of nearby industry tiles to determine which upgrades are present. The upgrade tiles would not accept or produce any cargos and could have helptext telling the player that it's an upgrade for its parent factory.

If the industry is production-only (Farm, Forest, etc) you could have the upgrade industry actually produce the additonal cargo, but this wouldn't work for processing industries since the input cargo wouldn't be distributed properly.

Re: [CZTR / 32bpp ] - Czech total replacement

Posted: 23 Jul 2022 19:46
by stefino_cz
2TallTyler wrote: 20 Jul 2022 15:18 Industries can check the tile class of nearby tiles, but can't know the object ID.

My suggestion would be coding the upgrades as additional industry types which the player can fund nearby. You can use the location_check callback and the industry_distance variable to restrict construction to some distance from the correct parent industry. Production would take place at the parent industry checking the ID of nearby industry tiles to determine which upgrades are present. The upgrade tiles would not accept or produce any cargos and could have helptext telling the player that it's an upgrade for its parent factory.

If the industry is production-only (Farm, Forest, etc) you could have the upgrade industry actually produce the additonal cargo, but this wouldn't work for processing industries since the input cargo wouldn't be distributed properly.
Yes, this was also my idea, to create that like a new industry. As I wrote - the first reason is to make a different look of industry graphic and the second is to reduce a lot of money during the game.

So, if it will work and these extra factory tiles won't produce any cargos, what the bonus will be? If you understand. Will it be something like multipling of basic production?

Re: [CZTR / 32bpp ] - Czech total replacement

Posted: 27 Jul 2022 21:40
by 2TallTyler
You could have the parent industry produce more, depending on how many upgrade industries are nearby.

Re: [CZTR / 32bpp ] - Czech total replacement

Posted: 28 Aug 2022 19:39
by dead.undead
VikTTD wrote: 20 Dec 2020 07:31
Hello guys.
Look at this screens please. I choose OpenGFX graphic and have this problems. Texture sometime have 8bit (screens 1 and 2).
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And i don't understand what whis train depot (vlakové nádraží ??). They have texture for 2 or more tile, but in the game this is not so.
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Thx for help.
CZ: V okně "úprava terénu" je vpravo ikona "Objekty", na kterou když kliknete, tak se vám zobrazí CZTR Addons, ve kterém jsou doplňky pro depa a zarážedla.
EN: In the "terrain modification" window, on the right is the "Objects" icon, which, when clicked, will display the CZTR Addons, in which there are accessories for depots and stops.
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I kindly suggest that you add this "depot tutorial" to the first post in this thread. It won't hurt if you add comments concerning this design "feature" (excuse my sarcasm) to the Bananas decription also.
Next, converting rails from non-electric to electric is a pain in the ass, as one is supposed to fix all the depot sprites manually. And if I got it right, Praha-jih depot has to be built from two depots minimum? Isn't it a waste of time and money? Is there a way to program adding extra-sprites?

Anyway, aside from several design flaws the set is brilliant! I'm a newcomer at OTTD and I don't last long in sandboxes, but i'm having fun now, and your set makes it more fun.

The dependence of truck set on CZTR roads was also a surprise, please add it to the thread starter/description.

Re: [CZTR / 32bpp ] - Czech total replacement

Posted: 30 Aug 2022 14:20
by dead.undead
Also, a question: does the set support "refit at station" ? The option is greyed out in my game (worked fine with xUSSR set).

Re: [CZTR / 32bpp ] - Czech total replacement

Posted: 19 Oct 2022 21:30
by Argus
There is such a problem with trams, and I think a picture is worth x words
I'm not sure if I've posted this before. The description of the trams is too extensive and the buttons will remain out of the picture. Somewhere it solves stretching to full screen, but somewhere almost not...
CZ:Nejsem si jistý, jestli jsem to už psal. Popis tramvají je příliš rozsáhlý a tlačítka zůstanou mimo obraz. Někde to řeší roztažení na celou obrazovku, ale někde téměř ne...

Re: [CZTR / 32bpp ] - Czech total replacement

Posted: 20 Oct 2022 21:38
by RoyalExamination9410
Argus wrote: 19 Oct 2022 21:30 There is such a problem with trams, and I think a picture is worth x words
I'm not sure if I've posted this before. The description of the trams is too extensive and the buttons will remain out of the picture. Somewhere it solves stretching to full screen, but somewhere almost not...
CZ:Nejsem si jistý, jestli jsem to už psal. Popis tramvají je příliš rozsáhlý a tlačítka zůstanou mimo obraz. Někde to řeší roztažení na celou obrazovku, ale někde téměř ne...
Off topic but which set are those buildings from?

Re: [CZTR / 32bpp ] - Czech total replacement

Posted: 21 Oct 2022 12:51
by Argus
CZTR houses and extrazoom UK town set.

Re: [CZTR / 32bpp ] - Czech total replacement

Posted: 26 Oct 2022 21:05
by Argus
CZTR beta truck set only works with CZTR roadset :cry:

Re: [CZTR / 32bpp ] - Czech total replacement

Posted: 26 Oct 2022 22:33
by kamnet
Argus wrote: 26 Oct 2022 21:05 CZTR beta truck set only works with CZTR roadset :cry:
Yes, this is intentional, the sets are meant to be used only with themselves, not with other NewGRF sets.

Re: [CZTR / 32bpp ] - Czech total replacement

Posted: 27 Oct 2022 09:58
by Argus
In that case, however, it's completely fine :)
The strange thing is that the buses are working. Although maybe only the first 3. :)

Re: [CZTR / 32bpp ] - Czech total replacement

Posted: 27 Oct 2022 13:50
by Argus
I just found it out quite late, so I have it in a lot of games unnecessarily. :D I don't want to change newgrf in them anymore :)

Re: [CZTR / 32bpp ] - Czech total replacement

Posted: 17 Dec 2022 09:39
by Nordleng
What industrial sets does this set work with?
Trains disappear in the ECS or FIRS.

Re: [CZTR / 32bpp ] - Czech total replacement

Posted: 29 Dec 2022 15:03
by ClimaxUke
Hello,

I see the following display with the train depots

Image <== Wood mesh (60 km/h)

I am in OpenTTD 12.2 with aBase graphics processing

Have you ever observed this? thank you in advance.
happy holidays

Re: [CZTR / 32bpp ] - Czech total replacement

Posted: 05 Jan 2023 19:55
by VikCZ
Nordleng wrote: 17 Dec 2022 09:39 What industrial sets does this set work with?
Trains disappear in the ECS or FIRS.
Hello,
read the first page, you need to have CZTR sets on top of the GRF list...
ClimaxUke wrote: 29 Dec 2022 15:03 Hello,

I see the following display with the train depots

Image <== Wood mesh (60 km/h)

I am in OpenTTD 12.2 with aBase graphics processing

Have you ever observed this? thank you in advance.
happy holidays
Hello,
use the objects tool in the "landscape toolbar". There are many objects (like buffers or the second part of this train depot) from the CZTR Rails addon set. Btw this has already been mentioned in older replies, so maybe try looking at the older pages...

Re: [CZTR / 32bpp ] - Czech total replacement

Posted: 18 Jan 2023 11:24
by Longac
Budu nejspíš za idiota, ale nejdou mi aktualizovat grafiky. Ve hře mám CZTR road set 1.0.1 , ale už máte vydané 2.0.0. Ať hledám jak chci, tak verzi 2.0.0 ne a ne najít ke stažení

Re: [CZTR / 32bpp ] - Czech total replacement

Posted: 18 Jan 2023 15:19
by VikCZ
Longac wrote: 18 Jan 2023 11:24 Budu nejspíš za idiota, ale nejdou mi aktualizovat grafiky. Ve hře mám CZTR road set 1.0.1 , ale už máte vydané 2.0.0. Ať hledám jak chci, tak verzi 2.0.0 ne a ne najít ke stažení
CZ: Musíte vymazat (nebo přesunout) soubor "CZTR Road set" přímo v adresáři (složce) hry, poté v Open TTD přímo v "Stahovat součásti" si stáhnete nový.

EN: You need to delete (or move) the file "CZTR Road set" directly in the directory (folder) of the game, then in Open TTD directly in "Check online content" you download a new one.

Re: [CZTR / 32bpp ] - Czech total replacement

Posted: 18 Jan 2023 16:09
by piratescooby
You can get it from the Online Content on the Main Menu ,https://wiki.openttd.org/en/Manual/NewGRF .